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“I believe in the value of arts and culture in our politics,” Congressman Maxwell Frost (D-FL) said today on the Deadline ElectionLine podcast about the power of Kamala Harris get an endorsement from Taylor Swift, or Beyoncé who offers more support beyond the use of her music and money.

“If you look at movement history, the times when social movements have actually had the most change and maintained the most power, the movement has been blurred with culture,” notes the first-term congressman.

As the tsunami of a possible Swift endorsement rose following a post the artist made on Instagram this week featuring a familiar silhouette, Frost now reveals he was surprised at first.

“It’s funny, because when a bunch of people sent it to me, I got a little mad and I was like, ‘Why the hell would you do it that way?'” the congresswoman said of Swift’s Aug. 6 post from her show in Warsaw. I actually thought it was the vice president, and I was just like, ‘Why would you do that?'” Frost added. “And then when I realized, when I heard that it was a dancer, I actually, I had a lot of relief , because I was like, thank God, that wasn’t the actual rollout here in this very important election.”

Elected in 2022 to represent. Florida’s 10^Th congressional district, the 27-year-old Frost is the youngest member of the House and the first member from Generation Z. Still, he didn’t bring up his age during his race for Congress unless it was to raise money, as he told us on today’s podcast. He discussed what it was like to be the only elected member of his generation in the halls of power and trying to stay true to his “100% authentic self”.

On the national advisory board for the Harris campaign, Frost says it’s important to remember the real role celebrity endorsements play in the big picture of American politics.

“You know, our job as organizers is we want to get people into these spaces, and then our other job, once they’re there, is to activate them and give them a political home,” the congressman says. “And when we have the ability to really tap into culture and culture makers and people who don’t usually talk about politics when they do, sometimes it’s just that much more powerful because it’s rare.”

“And it can be a little heated, because a lot of people would say, well, you know, we want Taylor Swift to talk about politics all the time, and I agree,” he says. “I mean, I’d rather have that. But in the absence of that, when she does it … makes the news a lot of times and gets people excited.”

“The numbers show it matters.”

When it comes to the potential VP chosen by the VP, Frost is equally blunt.

“I am very happy with the choice, I love it Tim Waltzsays Frost about The Minnesota governor whom Harris introduced on April 6 as his running mate. “He’s a real unifier.”

“I mean when you have Joe Manchin and Bernie Sanders agreeing on something, that’s good,” the congressman half-joked about Walz’s broad appeal.

Coming to the last question we ask all our guests, Frost has two choices for his fictional favorite POTUS, like – so listen up.

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